Episode Overview

This episode of Your Leadership Legacy features an enlightening conversation with Dawnese Openshaw. Known for her profound impact in the realm of leadership and relationships, Dawnese shares her insights on creating a meaningful legacy through authentic connections and self-awareness. The episode explores the importance of relationships, not just with others but also with oneself, and how these relationships shape our lives and legacies. Dawnese emphasizes the power of choice in how we show up in the world and the impact of our actions on our personal and professional relationships.

About Dawnese Openshaw

Dawnese Openshaw is a CHANGE agent and a master transformational leadership coach and trainer. After 20 years of business and leadership coaching, in 2020, Dawnese began to focus on families with teens and tweens — supporting emotional regulation, communication, and improving relationships.

She combines her passion for leadership and commitment with strengthening families as a family empowerment coach, primarily serving families with teens and tweens. Dawnese empowers families to heal individually and together, creating harmony in their lives and in their homes.

Topics Covered

  • The significance of relationships in creating a legacy.
  • The concept of RelationSHIFT and the importance of conscious choice in relationships.
  • The role of awareness in personal transformation.
  • The impact of pain points in catalyzing change.
  • Strategies for becoming consciously aware and present.
  • The importance of support and guidance in personal growth.
  • The relationship with time and spatial awareness.
  • The Global Leadership Academy and its initiatives for families and teens.
  • The difference between being a manager and a true leader.

Action Items

  • Give yourself grace and acknowledge the past while focusing on the present.
  • Become consciously aware of your current experiences and feelings.
  • Seek support and guidance when facing uncomfortable emotions and challenges.
  • Prioritize relationships and be intentional about how you spend your time.

Key Moments in the Conversation

“We are the common denominator and how we show up, how I choose to show up in my life and in this world and the impact that I get to create, the legacy I get to leave, I am that common denominator, and it is all about my ability and my power of choice to choose to be in my authentic power.”

“A shift really happens when we take that aha or epiphany and now we choose to do something, a committed action, towards something different.”

“We spend time on our priorities, and that includes our family.”

“We get to acknowledge that we only know what we know and we do as well as we know, until we know differently.”

“I am personally responsible for everyone and everything. But I’m not, at the same time. Like I can’t control that, but I am responsible in how I respond to what is happening to me, in my life, and not just to me but around me.”

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Tina: Hey everyone. Welcome to Your Leadership Legacy. My name is Tina Paulus-Krause and I’m super excited today because I have literally one of my dearest friends, one of the most powerful people I know. Someone who serves way more than anybody else I know in this world and is up to really big things. Dawnese Openshaw. Welcome my dear. How are you today?

Dawnese: I am fantastic, thank you. So happy to be here with you, Tina

Tina: I know. I know. I’m so excited to have this conversation because I know that you are up to big things. You have RelationSHIFT up on your screen right now. So I would love for you to tell the listeners, this is Your Leadership Legacy. And I know that you are one of the most powerful leaders I know and the legacy that you’re leaving is amazing.

Dawnese: So tell us about what you’re up to in this world. so excited. And I love that it’s all about legacy. It’s creating that legacy, leadership legacy. And for me, I know in my heart of hearts that when I leave this planet Earth, whatever you may believe, I know what I believe, and what I believe is that there are only a few things that we take with us. One way we don’t take our cars or our houses or our nice wardrobe or whatever. And I believe we take our knowledge and our wisdom that we gain through this earthly experience, and I believe we take our relationships, and in that core belief for me and the value is that relationships are some of the most important things that we will spend and invest time in while here in these beautiful bodies. 

So relationships, it starts as we know with a relationship with ourselves. And every relationship that we show up in in our life whether it be with a partner, spouse, children, parents, siblings, our next door neighbor, our colleagues, the barista who gets our order at Starbucks, and the gate agent at the airport when your flight is canceled – and how you show up in relationship with them determines when you’re going to get on that next flight.

All of that has one common denominator: Me. You. We are the common denominator and how we show up, how I choose to show up in my life and in this world and the impact that I get to create, the legacy I get to leave, I am that common denominator, and it is all about my ability and my power of choice to choose to be in my authentic power, to show up to stand for, not only myself, but others around me, is the legacy.

Tina: So beautiful, powerful and beautiful. So everybody, go back and rewind and listen to that again. So where I want you to go deep on is the shift in RelationSHIFT. So, what’s the shift all about? 

Dawnese: Well there’s anything that we learn in our lives, there’s a lot of times where we have these light bulb moments. Sometimes it’s a 2×4 moment for some of us who are a little hard-headed. So there’s these “aha’s” that we have and there’s these epiphanies that we have when we learn something new. 

A shift really happens when we take that aha or epiphany and now we choose to do something. We choose to create something, a committed action towards something different.

So great, I’ve had this epiphany, this Like okay I get to show up differently in my relationship with my husband. Well, how am I actually going to change? Like, what things am I going to do differently now that I am consciously aware that I get to show up differently? So that’s where the shift happens. It’s also a belief, like there’s beliefs we have, beliefs that we carry with us, sometimes limiting beliefs, and oftentimes we all have limiting beliefs that we bring forward to in every relationship. And so now it’s like, okay, this is my limiting belief, this is my epiphany. Now, what am I going to create that’s different? How am I going to show up differently for my husband than I have in the past? I don’t get to get stuck in the past because there’s no value in that, but I get to say, okay, moving forward, what do I get to do differently? How do I get to BE different, to really step up this relationship? 

Tina: What I’m hearing you talk about is awareness. And I say that because I lived the first 48  years of my life not being aware. So you know, you talk a lot about choice, you talk a lot about shifting, and you just created a beautiful process of how people can do that.

But like, how do I go from “I don’t even, I’m not acknowledging it, I’m going to pretend like it’s not happening. I’m going to pretend like it’s not there. I’m not aware of it.” How do I go from that, to really even being in the space of, “I see what’s not working for me in my life right now”?

Dawnese: Well typically, something happens that creates a great pain point for us, whatever that may be. There may be a situation. Let’s just say, I’ll stick with my husband – so my husband Scott and I have been married for 28  years. We’ve known each other for almost 29,  like it was a fast courtship.

And there are still days where I look at myself and I can walk around and be in denial, and I can say everything’s hunky-dory. But then there’s a big something that happens, and I’m not proud to say this, but in the past Tina, before I became consciously aware, there were times that I would just hold everything, and then it was like a volcano. I would erupt. 

And it’s in those moments, when I erupted all the emotions and spit it all over Scott, that I got to choose something different, because that wasn’t working and

Tina: Yeah, because we leave a path of destruction. Like I recognize that. I’m like, oh my gosh, that’s me, right? I hold it in, hold it in, hold in. I’m annoyed. I’m annoyed, I’m annoyed, I hold in. And then all sudden, there’s this like, in the past right, like we’ve done the work now so that we can kind of head that off at the pass. But in the past, it would be this huge explosion and then the result of that explosion is this path of destruction to my relationship, relationships that I say matter the most to me in my life.

So why do you think people – like I’ve said all along, my family, my kids, are most important to me, and I wasn’t showing up and backing that. So what do you think holds people back from that? Like we can say all day long who’s important to us but are we really showing up in that energy?

Dawnese: Yeah well I heard this once and it was in the midst of me saying that and not really living it. Someone said this and just, straight into the heart: “We spend time on our priorities, and that includes our family.” And I was like, “Well I prioritize my family, they’re the most important to me!” But at the time I was tunning a restaurant retail business, I was highly involved in local politics and I was serving on boards, and I was in all of these things. And so the last people that were getting my time and attention were my family members, was my husband, and I had two children at that time. And then our third, she was my awakening. I’m like, “You get to prioritize your family.”

And so I think honestly we walked through life on autopilot, unconsciously aware, unconscious, period, unconscious of what we are creating. And you said it so perfectly, in the wake of destruction, like there’s a path of destruction that happens when I’m walking through my life like a zombie. We don’t need a zombie apocalypse, we are living in it. 

Like, I find when I travel and I’ve been traveling a lot, like when I get on those trams at the airport and people are so unaware of their surroundings and how they just mush up against you, or driving on the freeway, or my goodness the Costco parking lot, like especially during the holiday season or on a Saturday.  Oh my goodness. Like, it is a test of humanity. And how much am I really aware? 

I mean, we are unconscious until we create an interruption in that and something so painful. There’s different reasons that people are driven to change or to transform in their lives. 1 –  there’s a pain that happens so severely that they just can’t take it anymore. 2–  They’re walking through life and realizing I’m going through all the motions and checking all the boxes. “This is my happy life for that I dreamt of, that I envisioned!” They’ve got the white picket fence and the two cats and the dog and the husband – and there’s still something missing but they don’t know what’s missing until they can figure that out. And then there are people, too, who are consciously looking for, creating shifts in their lives, because they know something’s missing. 

Tina: Yeah. So what would you tell somebody in any of those situations where, “okay, I’ve been unconsciously aware my whole life and now here I am. I get it. I understand it.” – What’s the first step that I take to move in that direction?

Dawnese: Well first and foremost, we get to acknowledge that we only know what we know and we do as well as we know, until we know differently. So we do as well as we know until we know differently. 

So the first step is, I truly believe is, grace. Giving yourself grace to understand and know that the past is the past. You can’t drive forward looking in the rearview mirror, so you get to leave the past in the past, stand in the present moment, and get consciously aware. What does the present moment feel like? So the first step is getting grace I would say. 

And then second is being completely consciously aware of now. Eckhart Tolle is amazing and The Power of Now, and what it means to be in this present moment. So many people are disconnected from what it means to be still. I was one of them. Constantly moving so I didn’t have to think, so I didn’t have to be in the feels. And so that’s really important to become present. Present with where I’m at: What am I experiencing in this moment? 

A good friend of ours, Mel Mason, has this beautiful practice of 5 minutes a day, where you just sit and be present. No meditation, no doing anything, put your phone away, and just 5 minutes. Being willing to do that can be absolutely transformative. 

Tina: I’ve come across people they’re like, what? You want me to do what? And I was one of those people, like especially with meditation. You want me to do what? Because the feels. You said the feels.

So I want you to go deeper on that because it holds people back. Like for me even, it held me back because my soul knows that there’s some hurt down there. My soul knows that there’s some stuff down there that I’m not okay with but I’m pretending not to know it. So how do I get past that? If you want me to be present and I’m scared of those feelings, how do I take that on? 

Dawnese: That is a beautiful question, and I would say you’re not alone. No path in this life for you to transform and to make long-lasting powerful shifts, you get to be supported. And with coaches like us, who are there to support you on this journey. Because there are going to be things that you see, that you experience, that you feel, that are going to be uncomfortable, and no growth that we experience in this life happens within our comfort zone. So, it’s going to be messy, it’s going to be uncomfortable, and you get to have someone who can guide you along that path and sit there sometimes. You know, what I create with people is sitting there with them in that discomfort, and simply holding that space so that they can feel into whatever they need to feel at that moment to create the shift. 

Tina: Yeah it’s beautiful. It’s beautiful. And you know, you’ve talked a lot about relationships. People relationships. Talk about the relationship we have with other things in life, like time.  Relationships that aren’t just people, so go a little deeper in that. 

Dawnese: Yeah. So we are IN relationship with everyone and everything in our life.

I used to be all into time management and I am a Stephen Covey fanatic. My childhood home overlooks the Stephen Covey family ranch across the bench there in Provo Utah. So I was like a Covey fanatic, like you know the A1, A2 prioritizing. I do Eisenhower matrix. I believe that there’s great value in looking at what’s urgent, not urgent, important, and not important that Stephen Covey made very popular and his Seven Habits of Highly Effective People book. 

But the real thing is about being in relationship with time, because time is not always finite. In my experience, being in relationship with time, like 10 minutes can feel like an hour sometimes, and 10 minutes can feel like one minute sometimes, depending on what I am up to. And so that is a beautiful thing. 

Also being in relationship with what’s happening around us. Spatial. “Read the room.” Spatial awareness. Being aware of people is a beautiful skill, listening to the listening, and also listening with your eyes, which is reading the room and knowing, like, okay, if I’m seeing someone falling asleep and I’m in a presentation, I get to shift that person’s energy. How do I get to shift my energy to shift their energy to create and generate something different in that moment? Because I am not simply a thermometer taking the temperature of a person or people in the room. I am the thermostat. I am in charge of that. And so it is really beautiful. 

And even being in relationship with, I think about our homes and the clutter that we may accumulate or the food that’s a message that’s expired.

Being in relationship really means that everything means that I am standing as a source of everything in my life. That I am personally responsible for everyone and everything. But I’m not, at the same time. Like I can’t control that, but I am responsible in how I respond to what is happening to me, in my life, and not just to me but  around me.

Tina: Awesome, beautiful. Thank you. I wanted you to explain that because sometimes when we think about relationships we just think about relationships with people. And literally, relationship is everything that we are and everything that we do.

Dawnese: Yeah I think about it like moving through this life, right? We’re navigating and in constant flow and therefore, like that heat-seeking missile, we’re constantly adjusting in order to get to our target and whatever that target is, it’s really about how we’re flowing through this firepower, moving when we hit the bumps on the road and the big hurdles that come our way, like literally there could be physical hurdles.

I have friends right now who are traveling. I’m trying to get back home for a really important something. And one of their parties is extremely ill, and they’ve been out of the country for a while, and this is the obstacle that they’re facing to get there. But they have a goal and they know what that goal is and they’re creating whatever it takes and being in flow and creating what gets to happen so they can get right.

Tina:  So what I hear you saying is clarity, like being super clear on what I’m creating. So, when we’re not in relationship with ourselves or anything else, we’re still creating. We’re always creating. So being super clear is what I’m hearing is being super clear about what you intend to create is super important. It’s about intention. 

Dawnese: Absolutely. 100%. Because if we’re going through life and we’re in the drifting; there’s a difference between being in the drift and being on autopilot, that just whatever happens, happens, versus being consciously aware and intentional about what it is I’m creating and being in flow to make it happen.

Tina: Yeah. So I know you’re up to big things like Global Leadership Academy, and Global Leadership Experience. So tell us more about what you’re up to, because I know your vision is super huge and super inspiring. 

Dawnese: Yes. And it’s the Global Leadership Academy for families specifically (GLA). We have lots of fun acronymS. Global Leadership Academy is the big umbrella piece and then the Global Leadership Experience (GLE) is leadership, it’s leadership across the globe for people who are ready to step into transforming their lives and how they show up. RelationSHIFT is focused on a specific aspect of that leadership which is really about enrolling people into our vision in this life and what we’re up to or creating. And then we also have the Teen Leadership Experience which is leadership for teens and so exciting, 13 to 17, 18  if they’re still in high school. And we’re also created a parent component with that Teen Leadership, so that the parents and we are working in partnership with the parents to support and empower their teenagers. And then Thriving Families Collective which is really about getting personal development into every home across the globe.

So we are creating massive transformation, one heart and one home at a time, to create that love and harmony. And that gets to exist so that this world can find peace, so that we can create love and connection instead of war and discontent. Discord. So harmony, the beautiful harmony that gets to happen when we step into who we are authentically and step into empowering, not only ourselves, but everyone around us to be the best and highest version of themselves.

Tina: Yeah, beautiful. It’s so beautiful. I love your vision and I’m walking with you in that vision. And I heard you talk about generation. So, really important, because I do a lot of women’s work, I work with women. And you talk about a teen leadership program. Well here’s the thing. If, from a family unit, we’re not doing that all in conjunction at the same time, mom and dad go to leadership, they come home, kids haven’t been to it. Kids go to leadership, the parents haven’t been to it. So, talk about why it’s so important to bring that whole family unit through it at the same time. 

Dawnese: Yes, I love that you said this because I did leadership. I went through the leadership process before anyone in my family. And I was creating chefs and then I’ll take one child, for example. I was calmer than I had been in a long time. I was responding responsibly versus reacting. And this child did not know how to take that.

So they actually amped up how they were reacting so that they could keep the equilibrium in the house that they were used to. And this is a child who enjoys chaos. So that was interesting.  And then my husband stepped into the work and then our two adult children.

And I can tell you, as that progressed and now as we’ve all been in the transformational leadership space, and really Tina, it’s about being in the healing space. Yes, we’re growing in our leadership, but it’s about creating the highest version of each one of us. And our conversations at the dinner table, our conversations on holidays or vacations, totally different. Totally different.

So to answer your question, our end goal is actually we’re working with teens right now and we’re working with parents. Eventually, of course, we’d want this to filter down to every child in the home or even our adult children so that families can come together and be responsible together, authentically communicate with one another openly and honestly in a space where people are not going to run away because their feelings are hurt and we’re having a difficult conversation.

And, you know, it’s ideal. It’s the vision. And I also know that sometimes that doesn’t always happen. And I still stand as a support for anyone who chooses to be in this space where they can create the concurrency in their life because the ripple effects that we generate are felt. Regardless of whether our close family members choose to participate in the same journey that we are walking, it’s still an effect, the ripple is created. Yeah, it’s real. 

Tina:  Yeah, the ripple is real. And I think a lot of the times we say leadership and I want to talk about that because way too often somebody will say, well, I’m not a leader. I don’t have a leader title. No, we are all leaders.

So talk to us a little bit about somebody saying what do you mean leadership? What are you talking about this space of transformation? Because you said this word heal. So I want you to bring it back to the true reason of what all of that means and talk about healing.

Dawnese: So I’m going to start with healing. Healing is the byproduct of choosing to step into my power. To identify what is working in my life and what is not working in my life is a space of leadership. It’s a space that will generate healing as a byproduct.

Because I had gone to years and years and years of therapy, we’ve done a lot of family therapy, a lot of therapy with one of our children and nothing was as powerful as really lifting up the hood of my life like a car and really looking at the engine of what was working and what was not working, what key pieces of the engine were missing or corroded and have got to be cleaned off like a battery that corrodes so that I could step in my authentic power and be the person that I know that I was meant to be.

Tina: Because that’s what we were talking about at the beginning, right? We say that our family’s a priority, but if I’m not showing up like that, there’s something underneath it. There’s something underneath that’s making that happen.

Dawnese: Absolutely. And so leadership is really about being willing to look at the leader within me; to allow people also to reflect back to us what they’re seeing. Because we all have blind spots. We all have things we think we’re doing or we say we’re doing like putting our family first when they’re actually last.

And it’s not until we really are willing to look in the mirror and get a clear picture of what is happening and what is working and what’s not working. That then allows us to make a conscious choice and to create something different. Or sometimes people might choose to be in leadership in a way that their leadership means I’m just going to keep doing what I’m doing.

Yeah exactly. And it doesn’t always mean that we’re moving forward, unfortunately. We like to look at it that way because it’s a growth process. But sometimes leadership examples like Stalin and Hitler, they were powerful leaders and unfortunately, they used that influence for not good in this world.

Tina: Yeah, it’s a great point. It’s a really great point. So often I think that people will hear leadership courses or leadership programs and go, “Well, I don’t have a title at work or anything like that.” And I just wanted to hit home that we’re all leaders of our life. Like, we lead our life in every way.

And even if I am on a corporate team, I still get to show up on that team as a leader to support that team to move forward. So it’s really about the leadership skills within. And I know you have a few things going on right now that I want you to talk about, things coming up like the Teen Program.

I know there’s a couple of workshops coming up and stuff like that. So tell us what you’re up to and what you’re offering so that if people are interested in this they can know where to get to you.

Dawnese: Absolutely. Thank you. I will share. And I also wanted to mention something that you said that is so profound. There’s a big difference between being a manager, having a title at work and being a leader because you can be a leader without any title. And you mentioned that. So that’s so important.

So we have some amazing things coming up. Thank you for asking. We do have our first Teen Leadership workshop that is happening. The first Teen Leadership Cohort or Class as we call it and that is January 13th and 14th.

So the 13th and 14th are two days of training and then four weeks of coaching. And it’s so beautiful because the teams will be coached. They will have an opportunity to meet with the trainer once a week and also with our small teams and with their coaches. So they’re going to get that beautiful one-on-one time with their peers and with the trainer all combined.

And then we’re taking the parents, as I mentioned, alongside them. The parents will have a one-day training and then they’ll also get calls once a week with the trainer. And it’s phenomenal. It’s absolutely phenomenal.

Tina: That feels very wrap-around. So tell us about why that after…. because how many times do we read a book, we listen to a podcast, we go to a conference, we go to a class and we’re all jazzed up about what we learned, and then we go out into the world and we get stuck in the noise and the busy and we never implement what it is.

So I want you to talk about how you’re adding that coaching on the back end of it, that one-on-one time on the back end to really cement that learning.

Dawnese: Yeah. So like you said, we can go to an event and we can get so excited and then we forget everything. In fact, I experienced that. My oldest children had this beautiful experience called Challenge Day. I love that program. It’s amazing, and I got to be one of the parent volunteers. But then nothing happens after.

And so a week after my boys had participated in that, I was like, “What’s still going on? How are things different at your school now?” And they were like, “Nothing is different. It’s all just gone back to the same.”

So it’s like okay, I get to create something different where there’s that experience then the follow-up because we get to stand in partnership with parents and the teen to actually implement.

Now, long-lasting change happens over the course of around five or six months. It used to be said habits are changed in 21 days and that’s just superficial on the surface. But we’re going to get to at least create that. But then we’re also going to create opportunities for these teens to come back to be peer coaches and mentors, to create community.

We’re also actually creating a Legacy Project. They don’t know this yet but they will soon. This first Teen Leadership Class or TLE one that’s going through is going to get to support us in creating a Legacy Project that will then become our Legacy Project for all of the Global Leadership Experience and the Global Leadership Academy. And it will be supporting teams and families.

Tina: Yeah, talk about what happens when they come back. Not with the Legacy Project but what’s that next level for them and what happens when they come back? Because that’s really an important step in a piece of this I think.

Dawnese: Yeah. So they will get to come back as peer mentors or coaches and they’ll step into the space just alongside. They’ll be partnering with an adult coach and they’ll be able to be in that space. They’ll be able to give input. They’ll be in their leadership and support us.

Tina: Their youth and their leadership, right?

Dawnese: Yes. And supporting us as adults who think we know everything to actually connect. And this generation is unique in and of itself. And we have Gen-Xers who are now raising not only Gen-Yers but there’s this new generation from 2010 and below and it’s got A name but I can’t remember right now.

But it’s all about creating opportunity for them to build community with their peers of those who are like-minded teens who want to make a difference in the world. So it’s so exciting.

Tina: Talk about a springboard. I don’t know about you but I know that when I was in high school, like to have that kind of an opportunity, it literally springboards them into adulthood, right? It literally gives them the tools and the resources to really get those leadership skills that are going to support them greatly as they move into adulthood.

Dawnese: Absolutely. And think about it, the reason we focus and we’re so committed to this relationship with teen and parent is because those are some of the most challenging relationships that exist.

And if we can support teens and parents to connect, to have open authentic communication with one another those skills are going to last that team beyond, of course, all parts of their life and their parents now get to create that same shift. And they can also step into different paths like Relation-Shift or the Thriving Families Collective as well.

Tina: Amazing. It’s beautiful. So where, Dawnese, can people find you?

Dawnese: We can drop a link. We have a different page for the Teen Leadership right now and the RelationSHIFT piece so I can give you those links and we’ll pop those into the comments. So you have those. And then, of course, you can always find me on Facebook. It’s Dawnese Noel Openshaw. You can find me there and follow me there as well.

Tina: Amazing. Amazing. I want to thank you for being on. I usually ask people like, what’s the legacy that you’re leaving? And so I’m going to ask you that. And I haven’t yet because it’s kind of obvious the legacy that you’re leaving.

Like when I think about you, Dawnese, everything that you’re doing is all about legacy. It’s not only about your legacy and what you’re creating but just creating families that thrive and communicate and understand what it means to have a 10/10 relationship. So in doing that, what’s the legacy? What’s the intention for the legacy that you’re leaving?

Dawnese: It really is what you said. It’s taking families from surviving to thriving, to be deeply connected with one another. To allow parents to choose to be in a relationship with their child and not just say they’re in a relationship. To actually create those ten out of ten relationships starting with the relationship with myself because I am that common denominator in all the relationships with people with everyone and everything in our lives.

And as you know about me, I stand not only for… well, let me just say this. Peace, harmony, love, joy, abundance, all of those things. And the real key for me is that my legacy is really impacting and empowering other people to create their legacies.

My vision is to support other people as well to create their visions, to live into their visions. Because, Tina, when we are living into our vision, what a difference will it make in this world.

Tina: What a different world. I think back to when my kids were teenagers and you go through all the struggles and everything that happens raising teenagers and kids and stuff like that. And these resources might have been around but I didn’t know about them. I didn’t know where to go. I didn’t know where to look. I didn’t even know that I was supposed to have support.

I kind of thought I was supposed to do it all on my own. So I want to acknowledge you for bringing these resources alive for families because it’s that important. This work is literally the work that will change the planet. And to have a safe space where families can come whether it’s the parents, whether it’s the teens, whether it’s all of them collectively to really understand how to communicate in a much brighter way is changing the world one family at a time.

So I acknowledge you for that. I thank you for your beautiful contribution to this world. You’re powerful. You’re beautiful. You are, inside and out, my soul sister. So thank you for everything that you are and for who you be. I appreciate you.

Dawnese: Thank you. It’s wonderful to be here with you today.

Tina: Yes. Yes. All right everyone. That is Your Leadership Legacy. Until next time, we will see you later. Bye.